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cool pics (2008-06-13)

david dickey

denver co

jason yoo awesome pics!! thanks for sharing and being able to re-live the experience!!

My pix posted (2008-05-23)

Jason Yoo

Sunnyvale, CA

My pix are posted in: http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0Ubt27Zu3YuzA I don't have all the names/emails of people in my pix, so check out if you think I took your pix. Jason

pix (2008-05-19)

Jason Yoo

Sunnyvale, CA

I did not post my pictures yet, but Ryan (2nd group) sent me a link of his pictures/videos, and I don't think he would mind sharing with others. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanstrive/collections/72157605033298160/

Photos (2008-05-12)

Devora Peterson

Golden, CO

I didn't take any pictures!!! If any one posts some photos somewhere, I would like to look at them!!

Capes (2008-05-06)

Biking Viking

That's funny.

Capt. Six Pack (2008-05-06)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Hero-mont, CO

Some say he's a mythical super-hero only living in the La Sal's and is propelled by excess guadalajara derived flatulence - some may attest to this as well!!! but for those of you who may have seen the Captain racing down to the Fisher Valley Camp - my condolences to you for the damage he may have done to your olfactory system!!! . . . . Until next year - - Just remember only short Cape's are good for Mountain Biking!!! Those long super-man style capes tend to get stuck in your deraileur, chain - that's why super-man doesn't ride a bike!!!

Who was that helmeted man... (2008-05-05)

Jersey Billy G

Mahwah, NJ

Oh yeah...who was that Captain 6-Pack guy anyway... :) He fixed chains, adjusted brakes and entertained all the way...the kinda superhero this ride needs....LOL...

An honor... (2008-05-05)

Jersey Billy G

Mahwah, NJ

Scott, Mike, Ryan & Chris (Yeah, my brother on the singlespeed - for those of you he passed on that hill Day 2) - It was my honor to try and keep up with you guys...you all rock!!!! Next time we get masks :) Will that hill ever end??? Back home in Jersey and ready to do it again...

Extra-Singletrack (2008-05-05)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Back home-mont!!

Recommendations: If you wanna do extra singletrack in addition to making SAG you better 1) Get Up Early 2) Bring a compass 3) BRING MAPS - they show all the single track in the area that you "could" concern yourself with, 4) Bring as many replaceable parts (THINK CHAIN LINKS, derailuer hangers, lube - that type of stuff), 5) Crank brothers multi-19 tool (you won't be unhappy with it), 6) KEY - REALLY understand how to fuel and recover yourself well each day 7) carry a good first-aide kit, 8) Be prepared to ride-into SAG and camp on the later side of the day which translates into carry'ing extra water/energy drink & food in your pack, on your bike, in your shorts, and 9) carry your own or your friends charged cell phone turned off - so you can call for help - if you get in over your head, 10) NEVER RIDE THE NON-KOKOPELLI's SINGLETRACK ALONE or if your not sure where your going to end up because your basically guarantee'ing that your going to get yourself lost and/or hurt or worse and ultimately left behind!!!!!! Alex will describe that to you.

1st Trip Riders - Tips? (2008-05-05)

Matt

Ashburn, VA

Hope you guys on the 1st trip had a blast. Counting the minutes till I get out there. Any tips from you guys on what to bring, what not to miss, extra singletrack excursions, etc?

First Trip weather (2008-05-05)

Wheels

Arvada, CO

Good to hear that there was no rain this year! Keep your fingers crossed second trip as we want it hot and dry(but not too hot). So what kind of beer are we getting this year? ;-)

Good times (2008-05-05)

Biking Viking

Lots of fun, lots of sun, and lots of miles. Don't miss the Upper Porcupine Singletrack - UPS! Super fun and super exposure! Have loads of fun Second riders!

Let us know how it goes (2008-04-29)

GJ4Life

GJ, CO

All you first ride fanatics let us know how the 'pelli treats you when you get done.

On the road again (2008-04-29)

Viking

Longmont, CO - 1st Ride

On the trail again, just can't wait to get on the trail again, the life I love is ridin' singletrack with my friends - oh I just can't wait to get on the trail again. The Longmont crew is packing it up today and heading out early tomorrow. We're hoping to be in Fruita early afternoon. We're planning to go out to 18 Road for a ride. If you're interested in joining us meet at the Aspen Street Coffee shop around 2p. After riding the tradition is to hit Guadalajara for a pre-ride feast. This feast should fulfill the burrito requirement talked about in the ride chat. See you all tomorrow!

Jet-Fuel (2008-04-28)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Wooooosh-mont

Yeeeesh, now that'd be some propulsion Hoss!!! What was that like an 8 hour Fruita to Moab on that ride? ;o)

Burritos... (2008-04-27)

Hoss

CS CO

Yo Yeti... I tried the bean burrito idea once....blew a hole through a new pair of Pearls..:) Need something a little less potent...

Beef on trail (2008-04-27)

Hoss

CS CO

Hopefully it won't be dead beef with vultures circling...

Hoss (2008-04-27)

GJFRONTIERSMAN

GJ CO

wohooo nice to hear there will be some other beef on the trail. Did the hare ever really win a race?

Camping Wed. (2008-04-25)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Camp-Pelli-mont

Hey all, we'll be the dirt-bag mtn. bikers camped out in the JAMES M. ROBB-COLORADO RIVER STATE PARK, FRUITA SECTION on Wed. Night so we can bike to guadalajara-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa - prior to the Pelli start - anyone else kicking back at the campground. We'll probably find some breakfast in Fruita on Thurs. A.M. as well prior to starting the Pelli - anyone up for green eggs and ham early Thurs???

Jet-Fuel (2008-04-25)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Fueling-Mont

Hey, Two words Hoss . . Bean . . . Burrito!!

Mitchell (2008-04-25)

Hoss

Colorado

150lbs…a good breeze from the Northeast and you won’t even have to peddle to Moab .. myself on the other hand could have a 40 mph wind behind me going downhill and I will still have to peddle. Slow for me is good…I was passed by a jogger going up hill the other day… Hope to hook up… Hoss

Weather (2008-04-24)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Pelli-montonia

RAIN RAIN STAY AWAY . . . MOVE BACK ... ONE MORE DAY!! . . www.weather.com.

Hoss (2008-04-24)

Mitchell

Golden. CO

Hey Hoss. Have no worries. I'm not quite 320 pounds (150 wet), but I am dirt slow. We'll hang. I'll be the guy with the camera on my head and a 30 pound pack (first aid gear - I never leave home without it).

Rain (2008-04-23)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Weather-Mont

Rain, Rain, Go Away, Come Back . .. . . on the 15th of MAY!!!

May 8th ride (2008-04-23)

Hoss

Colorado

Hoss in Colorado May 8th ride… Looking for like minded individuals to ride with..this is vacation. It looks like I will be on the trail at 310 lbs, me, bike, gear & water.. I have lost over 30lbs training, but still feel I will be doing 6-8 hour days. Thankfully there will be 14 hours of daylight..:)

Re: Conditions (2008-04-22)

Viking

As of March 30th there was A LOT of snow way up high. I think Porcupine Rim was clear of snow. You might want to shoot the Poison Spider folks an email. Of course - Alex was just there.... rjk

Rain Gear? (2008-04-22)

Viking

Soggy-mont, CO

Rain Gear???? The 10 day shows rain on May 1 - May day, May day, May day.

Conditions? (2008-04-22)

Mark

SLC, UT

Does anyone know the present snow conditions in the LaSals (just the kokopelli trail part) and Porcupine Rim Trail?

Packing (2008-04-21)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Longmont, CO

All I got left to purchase is a pack of Juicy Fruit!!!

1 week baby! (2008-04-21)

Viking

Longmont, CO

One week baby! Oh yeah. I've started making the tune-up list and getting the rig koko-fied. Also started laying out my gear and making my shopping list. I have one quick training question. Are we supposed to stop training 7 days in advance or is it something like 3? Also, I'm willing to make a reservation at Guadalajara in Fruita if folks would like to do a pre-ride dinner on Wednesday the 30th. We, the Longmont Crew, are planning to arrive in Fruita early afternoon and hopefully get a quick 18 road ride in followed by a celebratory dinner at Guadalajara.

Almost within the 10 Day Forecast! (2008-04-21)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Pelli-montonia

Well April 30 is now in the 10 day forecast for Fruita - Rain - but the odds of that actually playing out are probably worse than me winning the powerball on Wed.!! I'm just happy to be within 10 days of heading to Fruita. On another note if anyone is heading to fruita this weekend the weather looks like it will be awesome!!

re: Tire Stuff (2008-04-18)

Mitchell

Golden, CO

Ha! That's 10 hours for 45 miles not the whole 140. :) And even that may be a longshot for me. Besides, I need people in front of me for the video. BTW... If anyone needs a ride from Golden, I have room for one. Going up early on the 7th.

Tires - 10 Hour Day (2008-04-18)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Wow-mont!

10 hours from Fruita to Moab ;o) . . . I don't think the question is . . "what kind of tires are you going to ride on" . . . but more . . "what kinda Jet Pack do you use!!!" :o) Or maybe along the same lines what kinda' beans do you put in your burrito's!!!!! I agree . . . forget the tire stuff just ride the trail . . . However, urban legend has it that the perfect MTB tire for all conditions was made by a guy in living in Minot, ND. . . but like the high fuel effic. car it was immediately snubbed out by OPEC!!! :o) See you all on the trail!!

What? (2008-04-18)

Mitchell

Golden, CO

I really don't get what all the fuss about tires is. I have run the same tires on every trail I ride and it was never an issue. Stop fussin' and just ride what ya got. BTW... I'll be the one clocking in a 10 hour day. :)

GPS (2008-04-18)

GrandJunctionite

GJ, CO

oops forgot to add this to the last post. I will be bringing my sub-foot accuracy GPS that runs ArcPad software (mobile GIS) to try and map the route, assuming I do not run out of batteries. That way I can do some cool things with the routes in a GIS that I keep with trails on it. What I wonder is what format those guys from GJmountainbiking like do they like shapefiles or are they a Garmin bunch? I suppose I could ask them.

Tires? (2008-04-18)

GrandJunctionite

GJ, CO

I am going to ride without tires just rims... no not really. I for one do not see many advantages to running different tires for the multitude of terrains we will see. Meaning, I have tried many, many different tires/rims sizes etc and they all accomplish the same thing- they get you from point A to point B. I think the biggest thing for the heavy crowd would be 2.4 in the front and at least 2.35 in the rear. For the guys and gals on the lighter side you too would be doing yourself favor with at least 2.3s. Personally I am a bit of a freak and run Maxxis Advantage in the front (2.4) and Specialized Eskar in the rear (2.35).Then again I may be one of the heaviest people on the ride at a slim 260...so if I pass you be ready to be heckled. (Trip #2)

Thanks Guy with the Clip Board (2008-04-17)

Viking

Longmont, CO`

Thanks Alex. I exchanged emails with a fella from GJMountainbiking.com. He said there was a moto link, but it tends to be sandy in that area and so he has never ridden it. He wished us good luck and asked that we get way points for mapping. So maybe we'll give it a whirl on Day 2 or, if time and energy permit scope it out on Day 1. Thanks in advance for all your continued hardwork on organizing this fun and challenging event.

Packing (2008-04-17)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Longfall-mont

Mental note . . . pack a parachute in my HAWG and practice my Mtb-basejumping technique!!!! Someone call TGR - I've got an idea ;o)

Tires (2008-04-17)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Tireselection-mont, CO

I'll be running Maxxis Minion DHF 2.35's regardless of conditions. These are what I roll best on regardless of conditions and since there's talk of sand and varied conditions? . . . Well they'll float better than most and if it comes to speed uphill, hey - it's not the K.T.R. I'm just going to enjoy the ride - I'll see ya on the downhill's :o) and you'll hear me grunting in the back of the pack on the uphill's I guess ;o)

weather, tires, trail hookups (2008-04-17)

The guy with the clipboard

Boulder

Moab clocked 23 degrees as a low last nite. Will probably be 80 today. Go figure. Looks like the tire questions are starting again - just a note on the mud, EVERY tire will muck heavily in that adobe mud, there's no magic tread for it. Yes the TOTW trail overlooks Fisher Valley camp, no you're not connecting the two without a parachute. About a connector from the Overlook Trail to the railroad Trestle on day 2 (Ryan, Chris), I scoped it out and there's got to be a moto track that connects them, ending about 1.5 miles above the railbridge on the pavement. This is a job for Fruita Frank.

Re Tires (2008-04-17)

Viking

Longmont, CO

I've done the ride twice. First year on Verticals and last year on Weirwolves, both were 2.35's. There is less technical riding on days 2 & 3 so your Verticals would probably be better. I remember spinning out alot on day 1 with my Verticals. They float in sand ok but I remember walking a lot. Last year we had lots of mud and the Weirwolves caked up - thank god for disc brakes. So if rain is forecasted you'll want to run something that sheds mud/rocks/etc. I'm hoping for no mud this year as I'll be running Weirwolves again. My reasons for running Weirwolves are these: 1. because I like them and 2 because I'm too cheap to go buy different tires. Hope this helps.

Tires Again (2008-04-17)

Rob

I have made my decision, but I still want to put this out there. I have 2 sets of Tubeless tires I use on my bike. 1) Continental Vertical - 2.3 2) Maxxis High Rollers -2.35 I like the Maxxis the best as far as all around performers. I like them on the technical rock sections for they're grip. They seem to corner better than the Continentals. For the type of trail riding I like best they are very good for me. The problem I have with them is they don't roll very well. The Continentals are lighter (by 1/2 pound) and roll noticeably better. It's easier to climb with them. They work much better in the snow. They clean out much better than the Maxxis. I weigh about 160lbs and run my tires around 25lbs + or - I've heard so many different opinions of the terrain I'm confused. Right now I am going to use the Continentals. I have Stans in them and will probably use 23 to 24 in the front and 25lbs in the back. Is there so much double track and jeep road in this ride that if my tires don't roll well the ride will suck? Or is there enough technical riding to make me glad I brought the High Rollers? Let me know what you think of the terrain, if you have done this ride before.

dusty moab (2008-04-16)

Brian

Avon,CO

Yesterday rode in 80 deg 40mph+ wind/dust storm in Moab. Today did LPS & Porcupine- LPS cattle grate entrance was 32deg and 54 at the river. Saw lots of snow up in the La Sals , hopin' it melts soon. I rode full sus last year in the second group, and if it stops snowin' in the Vail Valley and get in some road miles-not just my trainer , I hope to rock my Niner SS this year. Using two cogs in the back for the climbs on the last two days. Anyone else stupid enough to SS it this year?

(2008-04-16)

Viking

Longmont, CO

2 WEEKS!!!! As of Monday we'll be on the 10 day forecast! So far so good..... fingers crossed.

Re: roll call (2008-04-16)

Matt C-NOVA Crew

Ashburn, VA

We've got a crew of 8 from Northern VA (near DC) meeting up with 2 from Vail for the 5/8 tour. Getting more consistent good weather here so stepping up the miles! mmm.... Boulder Brewing.

Where From (2008-04-15)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Where-Mont!!

Well I bought a Yeti and was kicked out of Minnesota by the governor because the bike had too much travel for the upper Midwest!! :o)

Roll Call & Top of the World (2008-04-15)

Viking

Longmont, CO

Where are folks from? Also, I was checking out google earth lastnight and noticed that Top of the World looks down on camp 2. Is that right? The maps show Top of the World as an out and back but it looks like - from the ATV trails on google earth - that the Top O' the World trail has a loop that swings out to the overlook and back to the Kokopelli. Is that true? Anyone?

Brew (2008-04-14)

Viking

Usually Boulder Brewing beers. Last year I believe it was hazed and infused and something else. Unless he gets Dales - canned mtb fuel, baby. Ryan

Beer !! (2008-04-14)

Endo

Off topic (kinda). What kinda beer does Alex and crew bring for the all you can drink !!! starting to work on that part of my endurance. thanks.

GJ Riding (2008-04-14)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Pelli-montonia

Hey Chris, Sorry to hear that you made the trip to G-J - hope all is as well as it can be. Good to hear that you got out on the saddle and did some riding though. Safe travels and give me a holler when you get back to Longmontonia and maybe we can head out and hit some trail.

(2008-04-13)

chris

longmont, Co

Hey yeti, We're in Grand Junction for all the wrong reasons tonight but maybe next weekend. Looks like you had a great time. I rode to rabbit this morning before we scadaddled... Rock on 3 weeks- Chris

Duplicate Post's (2008-04-13)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Dufus-Mont

Sorry everyone for the duplicate post - - I lost my internet connection.

Weekend Rides (2008-04-13)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Amp\'d-for-Pelli-mont!!

Hope you all had an awesome weekend riding. I hit the cold and wind on Sat. and headed to Heil from Longmont, then to Hall, Rabbit, and home again. After hearing Mike, Chris, and the Viking talk about the ride conditions a year ago - I'm hoping that unecessarily subjecting my body to the effects of the wind and cold weather will appease the Kokopelli weather spirit's and will bring weather good-fortune to all Pelli'ers during the May 1-3 ride!! There was virtually no one on the trails in Nothern Boulder County on Sat. afternoon - which was eery. Less than three weeks to go!!!!!!

NO.BO.CO-Trifecta (2008-04-13)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

My-insert word here-Hurts-Mont

Hey Y'all, did the Heil, Hall, Rabbit on Sat. - I guess I like to ride in the wind and cold or maybe I'm paying sacrifice to the wind/weather gods of the Kokopelli now so that the weather will be beautiful-60 deg-windless-blue-bird for all three days!!! Hmmmmm. All in all it was a good ride, great trail conditions and ahem, highway conditions :o) I'm sure the traffic at all three trailheads is ridiculous with this awesome weather today - virtually no one was out yesterday I didn't meet 1 person coming down from the Nelson loop yesterday around 4:30 P.M. ~~ almost eeeery!!!! See you all on the Kokopelli in a couple weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trail Conditions (2008-04-12)

sdsantacruzer

Longmont

Did you guys do the Longmont to Heil to Hall to Rabbit and back ride today? What were the conditions? I am doing it Sunday so was wondering.

3 Weeks and Counting (2008-04-11)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Psyched-for-pelli-mont

3 Weeks and counting down!!!! See you all in Fruita very soon!!!! I haven't thought about the "Ride the Rockies" tour. Actually I don't know anything about that Road tour, sounds fun though?

RTR (2008-04-11)

Norm

Columbia, SC

Anyone doing Ride The Rockies also?

Sat or Sun (2008-04-10)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Hallin-mont

Chris, sunday A.M. won't work for me, so I'm gonna cross my fingers and hope that Sat. will be dry enough ;o) Come'on Colo. Sunshine!!!!

(2008-04-09)

chris

longmont, Co

Looks like the shuttle won't be able to get up that road and we all have to climb that hideous climb. Oh, Ryan told ya about the other bridge already...... Scott, this Sat is good for me but if the trails are looking better (dry) for Sunday I'd prefer to ride then. Does everyone want to meet at the rose garden at Roosevelt say 8:45ish

Dewey - Route (2008-04-09)

VIking

No, the loss of Dewey, logistically means we will cross the river about 200 yards down stream on HWY 128. Ryan

Dewey bridge, where do we cross now? (2008-04-09)

Clint

CO

So that absolutely does suck that the bridge went down, i'm also a bekerpelli virgin and was looking forward to that as a landmark. Does this effect our route?

Alternative Ride (2008-04-09)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

LongHALL-mont

Chris, I talked to Mike and we've agreed that doing the Longmont - Heil - Hall - Rabbit - Longmont will be on the slate instead of heading to Gowdy - I need some time in the saddle and not in the drivers seat . . . So unless the weather really deteriorates in the front range and we get a butt load of snow this ride should be a go. I think I'd leave my place around 8:30 A.M. on Sat. A.M. - meet you at 8:50 A.M. - then meet Mike around 9:05 A.M. then head to Heil - then to Hall - then to Rabbit. Any thoughts Chris?

Curt Gowdy (2008-04-08)

sdsantacruzer

Longmont

I am headed to Laramie tomorrow then to Cheyenne. I will give a full report on conditions at Curt Gowdy late afternoon. Really sad news about the Dewey bridge. I had the good fortunate to ride the area last October. As someone said on the mtbr web site, It was an icon, everyone knew the Dewey Bridge area.

(2008-04-08)

chris

longmont, Co

Scott, Whatever day is better weather works for me. I've got to work one day but riding is a priority so let's do it. Is there a contingency ride you want to hit if it's looking like Gowdy will be unrideable due to this week's wet weather they are talking about? The Fort works for me if need be. Mike, you coming? Who else? Dales???

Gowdy Cont'd (2008-04-08)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

A little slow-mont

Who's in for GOWDY!! This weekend. We can rally at Roosevelt if there are more than the usual group.

Curt Gowdy State Park (2008-04-08)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Ridegowdy-mont!

Okay so I'd like to put on 50 miles this weekend up at Curt Gowdy - Say Sat. or Depending on Weather - Sun. I can't drive up there so someone else will have to bring the support vehicle! I'll probably wrangle up a couple more people to ride whichever day we commit to. Maybe a group of Longmontonians will be wanting to come and ride . . . ride . . ride . . ride . . and ummmm . . ride!!

Dewey Bridge (2008-04-08)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Troubled-mont

Nut's I've never been before - and it hurts to look at that bridge burning down!! Definitley one of those things that make you think that someday you'll remember to get out and see those things that people tell you about before their gone . . . . . . . by some unforseen act of life.

Dewey (2008-04-08)

Ryan

I cannot believe Dewey's gone. This is surely a sad day for the folks in the region and for anyone who has done the Koko. The bridge was a landmark that everyone wrote about. Having worked in Historic Preservation i hope Grand County will be able to secure funds to rebuild and memorialize the bridge. I also hope the boy who burned the bridge is provided counseling for his actions. Burning is the first indicator of abuse and control problems. Viking

(2008-04-07)

chris

longmont, Co

Actually the bridge looks like Ryan just went over it.

(2008-04-07)

chris

longmont, Co

At least if the bridge was collapsing as we just got over it, maybe it would of been cool then, kind of Indiana Jones style.

(2008-04-07)

Rico

Whoa...

(2008-04-07)

chris

longmont, Co

The bridge from 1916 was taken down by a 7 year old. That orange globe mallow that bloomed at the base of the bridge is going to look lonely..

London bridge is burning down (2008-04-07)

chris

longmont, Co

Bad bad news everyone. I just heard and seen that the beautiful historic Dewey bridge that we've all revered and loved and photographed has burned down, gone, finito last night. The quintessential midwayish icon where the Colorado river and the Kokopelli trail intersect was burned down by a boy playing with matches. Great.... if you've never seen it or got to ride across...you never will. Sorry. Coming out of Yellow Jacket, it was the perfect setting for lunch before the big climb. This sucksssssss.

Curt Gowdy (2008-04-07)

mike

Chris & Scott i would be up for hitting Curt Gowdy next weekend - what day do you think you are going to going? Only three weeks to go, and I really need to start punishing - no training! And there couldn't be a better place to start than S. Wyoming!

Gowdy (2008-04-06)

Viking

I'm out for Gowdy. Forgot I we were having a family weekend in Chicago. I'll raise a slice of pizza for the 'pellier's. rjk

Curt Windy Ride . . . (2008-04-06)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Long-hall-mont!!

Chris, the Viking has informed me about the Curt Gowdy ride nexxxxxt weekend, ummmmmm count me INNNNN for some of that SSSSSSSSwwwweeettt Gowdy singletrack!! Can't wait . . . maybe I'll bring the grill with as well for post ride BBQ if everyone has time? Viking and I got out on Friday and did a quick longmont to Heil and back . . I think he's got his lungs ready for the pelli!! Somehow I got roped into sittin with the niece, stop over I got a new-old toy I gotta show ya. . . . Alright till next weekend!!!! Who's all in for the Tour De Gowdy - 50 miler!!

Time to get psyched (2008-04-06)

VIking

Just to get yer blood pumpin' a bit. check out www.westernslopestyle.blogspot.com for some good bike p*rn. Namely - the sedona and bartlet wash segments. Ryan

Curt Gowdy (2008-04-04)

sdsantacruzer

Long-wait for Kokopelli-mont

Chris, I called a local bike shop in Laramie to check conditions and they said two weeks ago Curt Gowdy was ridable. It has since snowed but no recent reports were available. I have business in Laramie next week and will get a current update. I would would be up to ride the area but will only be able to ride the weekend of the 13th. I am heading to SD on the 18 & 19 to ride the Black Hills. (And see family) Regarding the wind in Wyoming....They use a log chain for a wind sock in that state. :-)

(2008-04-03)

chris

longmont, Co

It's been pretty windy and dry up there and willing to bet it would be quite similar to our front range, but will do some checking this week and post back later. It will be so convenient to get a group of people for a Wyoming trip since everyone on the Kokopelli is from Longmont. It's a 1:30 drive straight up North. This new security/spam stuff would work great on the border

Curt Gowdy (2008-04-03)

sdsantacruzer

Longmont

This month? Is there still snow up there?

Curt Gowdy (2008-04-03)

Viking

I'll check the social calendar. Mark me as a tentative - yes.

(2008-04-03)

Chris

longmont, Co

Curt Gowdy Wyoming tour on the 13th or 20th? I love this place. SSSSingletrack built by the pro's for mtbers. An easy 50 miles (riding in both directions) of horseless techy twisty and tight trails through fun rock gardens and beautiful meadows and aspen groves. See, uhhum, my pics on the vedauwoo jack trip and let's go ride the best kept secret on the front range. Can be windy. Guaranteed to put your legs and lungs in order for the trip. I doubt we'll see more than 20 people on the trail. Anyone???

transport (2008-04-03)

david

denver, co

hey, if anyone is interested in tranport to fruita for the Koko trail ride scheduled for May 8. I can take 2-3 riders and gear. will leave the 7th may, early, maybe get checked in and do a warmup ride that afternoon. Anyone interested email me crockettd2@msn.com.

(2008-04-03)

chris

longmont, Co

I've been riding maxxis ignitors tubless 2.35 for over a year now and have had 1 flat that i was able to reinflate trailside. These tires are great all around and love the desert (as Ryan and I got to pound this weekend) Great sand float, not very sticky with mud(hey what isn't?) wet traction over smooth rocks is ok, good rolling. Advantage tires are my next choice I'd like to try. Maxxis in general are better tires than most. A little expensive but will give you quite the optimal experience trailside. Now if they could just get me some tubless 29ers....

Kenda Small Block Eight Tires (2008-04-03)

sdsantacruzer

Longmont

Rode them from Longmont to Hall Ranch last weekend and back. The rolling resistance on the pavement was superb. I like the fact they have a wide range inflation capacity. 30psi to 80 psi I ran them at 45 psi for that ride. The conditions at Hall were excellent on Saturday so any tire would have worked well. IMO Rode Hall again yesterday with them at 35 psi and was impressed. They are a little sketchy on rock surface mixed with gravel. Like Hall can offer. They also pick up and hold mud if the mud is sticky. But performed well overall. I am really concerned about the thickness of the tire. They are built light and give up some of the thickness beneath the tread. I have had two flats already. I am going to do the same route this weekend and add in Heil. We'll see how they perform with the loose rocky terrain Heil offers. After watching the videos of the Kokpelli on this web site I am inclined to ride my Maxxis Advantage. We'll see.

sdsantacruzer (2008-04-02)

Sean

Do you have any experience with the Kenda tires you talk about. What makes you think they will work well? Do they roll well? How are they in the rocks? What pressure do you use? Are they prone to flats?

Hot off the trail (2008-04-01)

Viking

Just got back from Moab/Fruita. Chris and I had a grand time. Hit Klondike Bluffs and the Slick Rock practice loop. Weather and other life commitments kept the rides short. Vail Pass closed monday shut us out from going home. Found that out in Fruita so we hit Mary's Loop and Horse Thief Bench. We got to watch the sun set on the Colorado and enjoy a cold Dales in the parking lot. Colorado is awesome. It got my blood pumping for Bikerpelli. And, it will get me through my last 7 or eight spin classes....... Viking

Is eveyone ready? (2008-04-01)

sdsantacruzer

aLongfortherideMont

Where is everyone? There is only weeks left till we hit the trail. I am getting really pumped. Been watching the videos of the past rides and am anxious to make the trip. Three fun filled days of doing what we love to do! Let's get riding!

new rules (2008-03-30)

anti-spammer

Just checking out the spam attacks recently. Web Mistress is installing a safeguard shortly.

Joisey response-And Tire Question (2008-03-28)

sdsantacruzer

Longingmont

To Joisey: You'll have to take both, along with a Redbull, to get through the techy stuff. ;^) I have been thinking about the tire questions brought up in previous posts. Has anyone rode the Kenda Small Block Eights? They are not super aggressive and probably not for rocky techy stuff but on a long ride they appear to provide a more efficient rolling resistance. I am going to try them out on Hall Ranch tomorrow.

(2008-03-27)

Joisey

How about Viagra or Rogaine. Will this help my technical ability?

(2008-03-27)

Chris

Oh good, Air Jordans...... wtf Alejo

(2008-03-27)

Viking

I heard JC Penny has some sweet deals on Mavic Crossmax wheels and Intense 29er spiders. Awesome.

(2008-03-25)

Vike

We'll be thinking about you, McLovin.

Hall Last Night (2008-03-25)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Ride-mont, CO

Chris, tyou ride hall last night as well - thought maybe you were doing one of your Forest Gump style single-speed racer 80+ miler rides again :o)? I ran up and did a quick loop and got down as the sun set kinda boring but hey I'm not Mr. Technical like the Viking. Hope all you guys have a great ride in Moab this weekend - I'll be jealous but I'll probably just be riding up at Hall all weekend and maybe squeezing in some road riding as well.

(2008-03-24)

Viking

Weekend. I'm looking forward to this weekend, Chris. Can't wait to get out there and ride in Moab. I forgot to bring the steed into the stable for servicing today. Hopefully the good guys at Blue Sky will forgive me. later, Ryan

Trails and tires (2008-03-24)

Frank Grand Junction

Grand Junction, Colo

Except for the first 1/2 day which is rocky, the trails and fire roads will be dry and loose. If you weigh 150 or less then a 2.0 tire will work. If you weigh more including a camelback full of stuff then you should consider bigger tires. 2.3 tires both front and back work well. The trails are dry now and in a few weeks they will be really soft. Ask Alex and remember he weighs 140 lbs. in a rain storm.

(2008-03-24)

chris

I think next weekend we'll have our choice of dry trails Ryan. We can lead Scott H. right into the gnarly. haha Saw your bro coming back from Hall tonight. Looks like he's jumped right back in after your ludicrous weekend like any typical Longmonter. Yeeha

(2008-03-24)

Viking

Anything going on out there in Pelli-land?

Roomshare/Rideshare (2008-03-18)

Don

Loveland

Anyone out there interested in sharing a motel room, and/or ride from Loveland/Ft. Collins/Longmont area for May 7?

Hall Ranch (2008-03-17)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

MTBing-mont

Hey, rode Hall last night - a little Rico cross training this weekend as well - tried to see how many bruises I could get while trying (I stress - trying) to tele at Eldora on Sat. Instead of riding. Hit Hall Sunday afternoon saw a couple people but it was kinda cold ~ went from 48 in Lyons to about 34 on top of the Nelso loop as the weather set in. Both temps are tropical for North Dakota so my blood must still carry a little ND anti-freeze in it as I was the one wearing shorts and a jersey while it was dumping sleet and snow :o). Sorry I didn't get back to anyone later last week I got slammed by work and well did more running than biking!!! Hopefully we can all catch up and do a KOKO-mont Ride before Bikerpelli!!!

Moab (2008-03-17)

Viking

Thanks, James. Chris and I are heading out that way in two weeks. I'm looking forward to riding the trails. Keep us updated on conditions.

Tires & Conditions (2008-03-16)

James

Grand Junction

Rode in Moab Wednesday, still snow & mud on North side of Porcupine climb, after the shuttle dropped us off. Once on top, the descent was dry and fast. Amasa Back was dry, not too sandy. Using the Specialized Eskar in 2.3 2bliss. Grips well, a bit slower than the Resolution was. Going to try a 2.0 on the back for this ride.

(2008-03-15)

Dog

A fattiy in the camelback if anything;=/

(2008-03-14)

Viking

I'd go big all around. But, I'm also into options so I'd bring the skinny tire in case it's drier than usual making it sandier than usual. The fatties will be great for the first half of the first day. It could be sandy - no - it will be sandy in the PM of the first day and when we hit Yellow Jacket on the second day. Both sandy sections are after sag so you'd have the chance to swap your fatty rear for the skinny sand burner at sag. I think the fatty up front and the skinny out back would probably be a good option. ALthough I don't think it would be necessary. Point is I've only used wide tires on the two times I've ridden it. Rico road 2.0 kenda's last year. He is blazing fast and a bit of a weight weeny so he went ummmm narrrow?!... He blazed through the sand with the skinnies. Most of the riding I do on the Front Range is almost exactly like the terrain we'll be riding on the Koko. So the Weirwolves are great tires. You can get them narrow and that might be a good option. I'll be running the 2.3's only because that's what I have and I'm to cheap to buy a new set of tires. For what its worth I hope this helps.

Sand tires (2008-03-14)

Endo

Thanks Viking....would you go Weirwolves front and back (maybe 2.3 front...2.0 back?) or just a big front Tire. Tanks Mon

Tires (2008-03-13)

Viking

Weirwolves work really well. I ran continental verticals the first year and spun out a lot. Last year the Weirwolves were great in the mud and sand. I hear of a legend of some guys from Ohio who on the morning of the second day switched out their tires for slicks, then switched back to knobbies at dewey bridge for the climb to the top of the world. Does anyone else remember that story?

Bike Tires (2008-03-13)

Endo

colorado

Never ridden the middle part of the KoKo. Are sand specific tires a must? (i guess for yellow jacket). Are they necessary for the Rabit Valley to Dewey Bridge? What do you recommend..(weirwolfs are the only ones i can think of). I almost always ride Python Lites. thanks

Hall Thursday night (2008-03-13)

Rob

I may be interested too. I work in Aurora, so it depends how early.

Hall/Thursday Ride (2008-03-12)

sdsantacruzer

East Loungemont

Hey Yeti McLovin. If you are riding Hall Thursday I may be interested. What time? The mtbr site says Hall is dry to Nelson loop and there are a few spots on Nelson that are wet. PS. I am the guy you met riding with Rob on DDB a few weeks back. Mike

(2008-03-12)

Viking

7 weeks baby!

SOOOOOoooooo....ooo...oo...o Quiet (2008-03-12)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Loungemont

What the Hey where is everyone???? We're less than two months out!!!

Last Weekend (2008-03-10)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Awesome Indian Peaks Viewmont

Hey, Heard of a few pellier's that got out last weekend. I ended up getting a new stem for the road bike on Friday (ooooo it's like a new bike!!) So that caused me to ditch the Mtn. Bike for the Road on sat. and got out around the fruit loops, st. vrain, 36, up to rabbit, and up to Carter for a healthy amount of roading. Not sure how many miles I have on but I got the Garmin Forerunner 50 HRM and it's pretty cool as is the software. Gotta love it when the REI dividend comes back!!! Alright so what's going on next weekend??? Anyone wanna ride on Thurs. Night - hall - if it's dry?? I guess it'll depend on the weather????

(2008-03-10)

Viking

I heard a few of you made it out this weekend. Good for you. I lost a week to the flu. I guess a flu vaccination is no match for the day-care-crud. Let me know if anything is shaping up for next weekend.

Sat. (2008-03-08)

Rob

I'm riding my cross bike. What bike are you going to ride? I don't know if anyone is training on any other type of bike as well, but I'll put this out there anyway. I am trying to put in about 1,500 miles before May 1st on all types of bikes. I would like to get in a few 100 mile rides on the road. A loop from my house in Longmont through BigThompson Canyon to Estes Park and down Rt 7 is 100 miles. On that route there is about 50 miles of climbing. I'm not up to that point yet but in another month I hope to be. Just post here if your interested. I'm going to do those rides on my road bike.

(2008-03-07)

Chris

Going north from the house tomorrow am. Up for some big miles?

(2008-03-07)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Anyone-Mont

Beuler . . Beuler . . Anyone . . Anyone . . Beuler???

(2008-03-07)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

No-one home-mont!!

Helllloooooooooooooooooooooooooo . . out there?

Weekend Riding (2008-03-07)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Sprawl-mont

Who am I riding with this weekend and where are we gonna go!!!!!

Bike Trailer vs Panniers (2008-03-03)

Jason

Sunnyvale, CA

Maria, You want to check out Cold Springs Racks (http://www.adventurecycling.org/store/category.cfm?Category=21). They make the rack to fit most frames without rack eyelets, including dual suspension by using wheel axle as attaching point. Because you have a support vehicle to carry water and food, and don't have to carry a whole lot of gear, maybe it makes sense to have a rack with panniers if possible. From my experience, the trailer was better when there was a lot to carry because it did not put the load on the bike. On the other hand, it adds one more wheel to control. Anyway, whichever you choose, I wish you a great trip.

Last Weekend (2008-03-03)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Wheelsidedown-mont, CO

Hey, nice to see some of ya'll Pellier's out on the Blue Sky trail this weekend - Sat. what an awesome respite from winter 70 and sunny with intermittent sunburn!!! Awesome view all the way to Mt. Evans and up into RMNP from the landfill overlook!!! Then the blast right between the eyes with snow/30-40 mph gusts/ and 20 deg. on Sunday, yeesh!!! At least in MN I knew it was going to be cold all winter with intermitent 30 deg. days!!! Oh well everything has it's place. Ran a few miles on Sunday despite the weather but it'll be interesting to see how Coyote Ridge fared through the highwinds and drifting - I'm thinkin' there will be some muddy and icy sections again in the valley's on Indian Summer and maybe the Blue Sky section between Lowry and Coyote Ridge Cutoff??? Any thoughts out there anyone else take advantage of the great weather on Sat to get out and Ride????

Panniers Vs trailer (2008-02-29)

Viking

Check www.crazyguyonabike.com, or mtbr.com. Those options might help. Sorry if I offended you or seemed condescending. Have a great trip.

Panniers VS Trailer (2008-02-29)

Maria

St. Paul, MN

I have Alex's book and have read it several times this winter. He suggests either panniers or a trailer- I was looking for advice from someone who has used either. I appreciate the suggestion about the trailer. I'm familiar with the terrain in Fruita and Grand Jctn, so I know its not MN. Thanks for the help!

Panier's VS trailer (2008-02-28)

Viking

Former Minnesotan

Maria, I'd suggest stowing as much gear as you can where-ever you can and carry as little as possible. I think pulling a trailer would cut down on a lot of the fun, considering you're riding single track and bouncing down fairly rough double track. I'd suggest carrying the bare minimum. There are road segments but the majority of it is off road jeep trail and double track. I can't think of anything in MSP/MN that would be similarly rough. Maybe Yetti-Mclovin has some thought on that. I'd stick to a backpack. I think the camping areas Alex has reserved time and again are great. If you are bent on carrying your own tent camping supplies etc, I'd spend one night camped out on the Western Rim trail (if camping is allowed there). Alex has written a book that details the ins and outs of the Kokopelli. You should check in with him. I hope this is helpful. I'm playing the Gear Daddies - Dream Vacation - in honor of your trip.

Saturday (2008-02-28)

Viking

Bill, If you guys start at DB we should be coming down from Indian Summer about the same time you roll up to the Indian Summer trail head. Chris, how was the DB? Rocky n' rough? I'm looking forward to getting out there. Yetti-Mclovin won't be able to join us. He's cross training at Winter Park. Ryan

(2008-02-28)

chris

longmont, Co

DB or CYridge works for me. The longer the better. 72 on saturday, I bet we'll see some people recreating.

blue sky (2008-02-28)

bill

denver

r/t b/t devils backbone & soderburg looks to be about 25 miles +/-. time-wise: 2hrs//3 hrs//4 hrs? 99% sure i'll be doing this ride on sat.; leaving from devil's backbone @ 9:30a. if anyone wants to meet up.

Bike Trailer vs Panniers (2008-02-28)

Maria

St. Paul, MN

I'm looking forward to riding Kokopelli's trail this spring. Does anyone have advice about hauling gear? I have a BOB trailer and would like carry my gear in the trailer (my frame can't accomodate a rear rack). My riding partner will probably have a rear rack and panniers. We plan to ride the trail in 4 days, with ride support (water/food drop offs and gear exchange) so we don't have to carry all of our gear the entire way.

(2008-02-27)

Viking

No worries, Rob. I look forward to riding with you Chris.

(2008-02-27)

Rob

Longmont,Co

This weekend doesn't work for me.

(2008-02-27)

chris

longmont, Co

I'm in.

Larimer Saturday Ride info (2008-02-27)

Viking

One more link. FYI http://www.trailcentral.com/gps/gps_county.php?county=Larimer&state=CO

Saturday 3/1/08 (2008-02-27)

Viking

How 'bout a group ride Saturday 3/1/08? Meet at Coyote Ridge between Loveland and Fort Collins, ride Indian Summer, the BST to Horsetooth, up to the towers and down through Lowry? If you are not familiar with the trails above check out the following link http://www.larimer.org/naturalresources/bluesky.htm. There you will find the info needed to meet up on Saturday AM. Lets plan to meet by 9:00 AM at the Coyote Ridge Trailhead. Are you in?

(2008-02-26)

chris

Your welcome Bill. Hopefully as we approach May, as Yeti boy wonder said, we could do some larger group rides so we could pre meet each other and just have some real fun on the trails and share stories. This will be the best Bikerpelli yet....

(2008-02-26)

bill

denver co

thx chris!

(2008-02-26)

chris

longmont, Co

The Blue sky is in great shape as of Sunday. A little snow last night but it won't last more than a day with temps. Dust was getting blown around on Sun it was so dry. It could of been the Longmont crew going by really fast also! Just don't go past the tunnel at the rez. I always go to the campsites to regroup and took the trail over. Complete spooge all the way. Take the road at the tunnel or uturn. After riding the kokopelli 3x's, I've learned lots about my capabilities. For me, I've determined that mileage plus intensity (and riding similar terrain and climbing) is key to training. In the end I do spend a lot of hours on the bike, but at least I know I can cover oh so many miles in that time no matter what kind of conditions and get from point a to b in a huffy if I have to. Again, for me, I feel the training schedule you get from Bikerpelli should be used as a minimum and strive for a lot more if possible in order to ride strong. Also, your choice of seat can be as important as the beer selection. Bring your personal seat if your renting a bike and make sure you are accustomed to being on it for a long time to know if it's the right choice for a long bumpy ride. Nothing can make your day better if all else is going wrong.....

training rides (2008-02-26)

bill

denver, co

did ride #2 last year; doing #2 this year. going to follow Alex's advice from last year, and train not so much in MILES riden, but in HOURS riden. if anyone interested, i plan on riding highway 83/parker rd. from co. springs to denver-get dropped off in the springs & ride north. i also do at least 1 ride during the week as i work from home. re: blue sky trail-what kind of shape is it in? thx

(2008-02-25)

Viking

Longmont, CO - 1st Ride

Good to get out and see a few other 'pellier's on the trail this weekend. Yetti-Mclovin, Mike, Chris and I made it out. It was good to see Rob and his buddy Mike out there too. I hope other pelliers were able to get out and enjoy. I know the Western Slopes are covered with the white goodness. As Rico says - cross training is good! enjoy the snow.

(2008-02-25)

chris

It's crazy who you run into on the trail...

Coyote Ridge to blue sky (2008-02-25)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Serendipitousmont

Hey, seems like alot of Longmont Folks are heading out for the Bikerpelli in fact as me and my two amigos (Biking Viking and Mike) were riding the Blue Sky trail we happened in to a couple other Pelli'ers (Rob and ?Dan?)!! Nice to meet ya guys. We'll have to all get together and do some larger group rides? Anyone up for it!!

(2008-02-23)

VIking

Longmont, CO - 1st Ride

We're staring down another beautiful Sunday in the Front Range. Looked like the mountains were getting some snow today, while the trails dried out down here. I'm looking forward to getting out there tomorrow with Yetti-Mclovin, Mike and Christo. I hope things dry out on the Western Slope for you Frank, and I hope everyone is training to some extent.

(2008-02-23)

Viking

Longmont, CO - 1st Ride

Training (2008-02-23)

Norm

Columbia,SC

Training was going really well until two weeks ago. My wife and I went to Steamboat for 10 days and the second day there I get sick as a dog. Never got well, never got to the slopes. Ended up with pneumonia and to say that it set me back is an understatement. Monday I will start anew and hopefully I am not too far behind the eightball. My acceptance and attitude is pretty good though so STILL looking forward to May. Lots of good riding weather here in Cola. so that will help things.

training (2008-02-22)

Frank

Grand Junction

So far it has been spin class and some Tele days on the mountin. It is snowing again today but I think that Moab will be ridable soon, As usual it will be the last minute crash training this year.

Training (2008-02-22)

Viking

So what are people doing for training? Is anyone following Alex's adivice or training tips from the website? I don't recommend the OTC approach (Off The Couch). I did that last year. It sux getting to Moab and not having enough energy to do the epic rides along the way into town. So what are people up to? BTW only 10 weeks til we ride!

Dewey bridge shuttle (2008-02-21)

Frank

Grand Junction

If you haven't done the entire climb before then you should. I have twice and I'm an old dude. Most fit riders won't have any diff. with it and it beats waiting for the shuttle if you stay to long at the lunch stop just before it. The ride from the top of the world junction on up is clearly the best part of that stretch. Rose garden hill in the rain and sleet is a thrill. This year will be dry , I bet.

(2008-02-19)

The Vike

Mclovin-mont, CO

No can-do tomorrow night. Sorry. Thursday is out too, school meeting. I went up above Lyons tonight. It was great. I had two shadows. One from the Alpen Glow and the other from the Moon Shine. I highly recommend, you Chris, and Scott get out on Thursday night. Should be really nice.

Full Moon (2008-02-19)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Mclovin-mont

The moon shall light up the sky over Ft. Collins well I would suppose. I'd like to ride Wed. Evening, but I've got a meeting I've gotta be at. Maybe Thursday on the usual trail - with the heat the hills above Lyons may present good opportunities as well?

(2008-02-19)

christo

Lunamont

Full luna lunar eclipse (rarity) tommorow WED beginning at 6 45 pm. The full moon will turn blood red like Moab. Where we riding? I'll be charging my light. Hopefully those clouds hold off till later in the night.

Spin Class (2008-02-19)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Mclovin-mont

Do I need to study, will there be a test, and what's the classroom scenery like?

Re: Day two (2008-02-19)

Vikin

Rico and I took the shuttle the first year. Grinding up that climb would have been better. The shuttle was slow and took a long time. My goal is to do a litttle extra training and grind out the climb. I agree with Frank's equation. Cleaning greater than ride time equals spin class. Yetti Mclovin' should get himself to a spin class.

(2008-02-18)

Jack

Rose garden hill

Extremely boring and totally uninteresting. Are you talking about the desert or Hillary. There's a shuttle for the seniors that stops near my house to pick up the littlte old ladies. I wonder where they load the bikes?

(2008-02-17)

Chris

Longmont, Co

I would say that the Top of the world trail intersection is around halfway up or less.(the easy half) The guys driving the shuttles in the past had stopped at that point for some people and then continued up to the top. If you think that section is boring, try the middle ring next time on Alejo's advice. That's the first "big" climb and precursor to even bigger climbs and has been quite a rewarding section to complete with the insane drop right afterwards. And if it snows or something that night, you'll wish you had climbed it. Go big in '08...

Re: Day Two plan (2008-02-10) (2008-02-17)

Trailaddict

Fort Collins, CO

"Day Two plan (2008-02-10) Alejo again " Is that shuttle up from Dewey's Bridge to about the "Top of the World" junction? If so, according to the Topo, it's only elimanates about 800 ft of climbing. (AND I appreciate the shuttle.) I remember from a previous Bikerpelli/Kokopelli trip, the climb up the Bluff was EXTREMELY boring and totally uninteresting. From the Topo, it looks like the 1st Cottonwood Canyon, is a bit beyond the Top of the World Jct by maybe a half a mile. Is that the drop off point? thanks, Trails...

training for the Pelli (2008-02-15)

Frank from Fruita

Grand Junction, Colo

I am planing to ride the Pelli again this year. I hope to start training soon but the snow and mud needs to dry. My basic rule is that if the bike cleaning time is double the ride time then the spin class wins. Moab should be ridable now or very soon. If you are out Junction way give me a call. Frank B. 257-7067

colorado springs riders (2008-02-13)

jumpastump

colorado springs

Any riders from the springs this year?

(2008-02-12)

Christo

Longitude

Great another Joisey boy! I'll bring the pepperoni yo. Bada bing

Kokpelli Trip 2 (2008-02-12)

Mitchell

Golden, CO

Hey everyone, I'll be helmet camming the ride for Alex. Since I'm not the fastest rider, I'm hoping they'll be a few I can hang in the middle with and get you on film. You can see some of my MTB videos at http://www.schnauzers.ws. I've done the Kokopelli before, but in five days not three. A challenge, but you only live once. If there's anyone who would like to help with filming off the bike shots (technical sections) just speak up and I'll bring a second camera. See you on the trail.

Sushi, Day 3 (2008-02-11)

Viking

The Viking likes uncooked fish. Although I prefer pickled herring. mmmmmmm

(2008-02-10)

Sonoran parageee

Shuttles are for outer space, save the money for sushi bar on day 3.

Day Two plan (2008-02-10)

Alejo again

I'm getting sucked into reading all the posts, must stop. ABOUT SHUTTLES ON DAY TWO - we've found the optimal plan for post-sag routing, we run the shuttles up Entrada Bluffs to the first Cottonwood Canyon, eliminating around 1800' of climbing. The rest is up to you. Every year we try something different & that's the best equation so far.

Look at y'all go (2008-02-10)

Alejo

Holy Cats! I had no idea how much this page would get used! Even a few pictures in the mix. I hope the size doesn't get overwhelming - ATTN WEB MISTRESS - GIVE THESE GUYS PLENTY OF ROOM TO MAKE A MESS IN HERE. Tires - 3.35's huh Viking, I see how your measurement scale works. About the Conti Explorer - great tire in the alpine stuff but one of my least favorite in the desert. I just kept spinning that one out on the rocks. Current fave out there is the WTB MutanoRaptor 2.4 (on Frank B of Fruita's recommendation) - http://www.performancebike.com/product_images/500/50-6765-NCL-TREAD.jpg A massive 2.4 carcass with fast tread, only 650g. The trick is to run a low pressure with it, makes it super grippy. If that image doesn't show up above, try this - http://www.performancebike.com/shop/Profile.cfm?SKU=23215&item=50-6765&slitrk=search&slisearch=true

(2008-02-10)

Rico

Cross training was rough...

Correction (2008-02-09)

Viking

Lowes-mont, CO

It has been brought to my attention that I have 2.35 Weirwolves. Sorry. Although my sweet Nirve switchblade (www.nirve.com) has a 3 inch rear slick. I'd love to take it. But I don't think that type of single speed would fair well.

Cross-training With Rico (2008-02-09)

5.75\" of Yeti-Lovin

Ginormousmont, CO

Be looking for Rico's cross training video in your local Walmart and late night T.V. advertising featuring Tony Little, Rico, and an apparently hairy spandex clad Biking Viking as the three tele-buddies!!! ;o) Oh yeah, Rico - I traded the alpines for Tele's last weekend at WP, painful first 4 hours but enjoyable last 2. Hmmmm maybe the old saying "once you go tele you never go back!!" is true? Yes a lady was involved...

Tires (2008-02-09)

5.75\" of Yeti-Love

Hugemont

Hey Maybe the viking has a secret Surly Pugsley he's not telling us about stashed somewhere out on the Trail "just in case" the weather gets' really bad or he's had too many beeeerrrrs the night before and needs a little extra carbon footprint. ;o)

(2008-02-08)

me

2.5

(2008-02-08)

Viking

Tire Mont, CO

James - OH. Inevitably someone will bring up the topic of Tires, so I'll crack that egg now. I think the optimum width is 3.5. I rode WTB Weirwolves last year and they were great! Even in the snow, mud and rain. The year before I rode Continental Verticals. These were 3.0, I think. I remember spinning a lot (not in a good way), skidding, and wiping out in the sand - a lot. - Viking

(2008-02-08)

Viking

Long mooo, CO

This will be my third year. I'm bringing twenty bucks cash. I think carrying the extra weight will be well worth the massage it will buy. Otherwise, Alex's list is pretty much right on, and he brings an entire bike shop along, and beer. Enjoy the blizzard. Viking

What to bring? (2008-02-07)

James

Grand Junction, CO

haven't posted much, fun following the exploits of the Longmont crew though. Wondering if those of you who've been before have any "special" items that you'd recommend a person bring. We're not getting much riding in over here, have to hit it early before the mud & snow thaws. Been riding a "virtual" bike at the club, but watching the video screen can make me queasy. Normally ride Aspen, Vail & Summit Co all summer, due to traveling job. Lot's of climbing up there. Hope to be able to keep up with most of you. Haven't ridden more than Mary's etc.

(2008-02-04)

chris

My neighbor (bicky)has a formula for when it's time to shave your legs. After 500 miles of the new year. But he's an espresso sporting, watt burning, overly sponsored, leg shaving roadie.(and nemesis riding partner) Tile setter's knees don't look so pretty when shaved so the more hair the better.

(2008-02-04)

Vikin

Hobby Mont, CO

No, I haven't shaved. Not in a while. I'm ready to party extra fuzzy.

(2008-02-04)

chris

Rock Mardi gras. Micros on Bross at 5

(2008-02-04)

chris

I hope you at least shaved your legs Ryan.

(2008-02-04)

Viking

Wal*mont, CO

PS. To one and all, Rock the Caucus, tomorrow.

(2008-02-04)

Viking

Longmart, CO

RICO! - Has emerged. Where have you been? I like the cross training. I went to spin class today. unfortunately it's tomorrow. So nothing like lifting weights in your biking shorts. I'm sure tele'ing is better in bike shorts.

(2008-02-04)

chris

And some tanning lotion

(2008-02-04)

chris

That would be 60 degrees Sunday Ryan. I better break out the big pack and start filling it with goodies

(2008-02-04)

chris

Ok Rico, How'd ya do the picture. Only 330" of snow up there huh

(2008-02-04)

Rico

Cross Training...

(2008-02-04)

Viking

Longmont, CO

I think a long ride Sunday is in order - 50 Degrees. Oh yeah baby. Blue Sky to Lowry seems doable.

(2008-02-03)

Chris

longmont, Co

Looks like a heat wave with lot's of sun rolling in next weekend. What's on the agenda everybody?

(2008-02-01)

chris

I don't know Ryan. It's a tough call. Ever since I got mine 4 mos ago I've ridden my fully once. But this is a long ride and lot's of mixed terrain. The one time I rode my fully was in Moab and I was glad I had it. Maybe Eric will bust it out this year. One very valid point for a rigid ss 2niner is my derailer went kaput on day 2 in onion creek mud and had to middle ring it all the way up which I would of given anything for a ss . My SS is almost 0 maintainance and rip's on trails but when it get's rough like Devils Backbone kind of rough you know your fully was the right choice and I plan on stomping down Porc this year even faster. Next bike 29" full suspension.

Single Speed? (2008-02-01)

Viking

Who's riding single speed? I'm not but I was wondering who may be shucking the advances in technology for fully rigid single speed action.

Yer welcome (2008-01-31)

Viking

You're welcome. Chris is the man when it comes to stuff out that way. I'm looking forward to getting out that way in May, and being in good enough shape to really enjoy it! Ryan

Thanks for the great info (2008-01-30)

Mario

GJ, CO

Hey Chris and Viking, thanks for the info, I have been living here in GJ for 10 years and have ridden Rabbit Valley several times, but I don't seem to remember what you are describing. Can't wait to do some more exploring once the white stuff is gone. Now that I think about it, www.gjmountainbiking.com has some fairly good descriptions and maps of the Rabbit Valley area, as well as many other great rides on this side of the hills.

(2008-01-30)

Viking

Longmont, CO

I was talking about the Western Rim. The Western Rim travels over several types of rock. I figured granite was one of them. I think it is mainly Limestone and sandstone, but all in all it makes for a very fun day. does the Western Rim connect to Westwater? I was looking on my maps this weekend and Latitude 40 shows a thin black line connection to Westwater from the Western Rim trail.

Fear and Loathing on the Kokopelli (2008-01-29)

Chris

longmont, Co

Mario, It's the Western Rim trail at Rabbit Valley off of Trail # 2 and the Kokopelli. Just google it and you'll find trail maps and secret treasure all over the net. The start of the trail is sort of hidden and unmarked and you do this steep and deep sand drop in but it instantly rears it's charm and just get's better. Essentially you're skirting the rim of these huge canyons, one after another and it gracefully cascades downhill like the river below it, and has these sweet drops and berms with flowers and everything desert. I've seen many people scratching their heads trying to find where it starts only to give up. Trail# 2 is accessible in a few spot's off the kokopelli, particularly right after sag. Get on it right there and follow it until it brings you across the kokopelli in to what looks like a parking /turn around circle with a drop off straight ahead that looks traveled. Launch down that, travel through some really deep sand (the kind found in yellow jacket) and as you start heading down the steep and deep on you're right is the entrance. If you travel more than 200 feet down you passed it. Again the start is a ridiculously steep and sandy chute to the right before you head way out of your way. Option #2: After you sorrily missed the entrance to the Western rim and you're riding down some rutted section of the kokopelli glaring at the sweetest singletrack just below you, alas the second and third chance sweepstakes. There are a couple other spots along the kokopelli that drop in. Just look for obvious well traveled trails going off to you're left and head down and enjoy. It (WR) end's where singletrack meet's the doubletrack/jeep road after some steep drops and ledges and chutes. GO RIGHT Don't get sucked into that singletrack right across the road. It's evil. As Mr Viking said, This is one of the sweetest spots along the whole koko and it's on day one a few miles after sag.

Where's the Granite- Part two (2008-01-29)

Mario

GJ, CO

Hey Viking, where is this granite you are talking about? Is it near the "Black Rocks" section out by Westwater? Just wondering... Sorry about the first blank post that darn enter button gets me every time.

Where's the Granite? (2008-01-29)

Mario

(2008-01-29)

Chris

Longmont, Co

Anyone up for something Saturday. 30-40 miles maybe more. DB to Horsetooth and up or I've never been to Lory, maybe connect Bobcat ridge if it's close. Weather looks good for now mostly sunny lower 40s. C

(2008-01-29)

chris

The shuttle doesn't make sense anymore. Either you climb the 2000 ft gravel road after Dewey bridge which isn't horrendous imo or you get shuttled to a lower elevation only to climb up quite a bit through 13 or so stream crossings which can be obviously wet and uncomfortable. Choose your poison. If it's warm option 2 might be nice.

(2008-01-29)

Viking

Longmont, CO

Right on, Norm. Train long, train hard. Last year I had a terrible time training. If it wasn't the weather it was my job getting the better of me. Going into the ride it was pretty much OTC - off the couch - and riding. I did forget to mention there is a long climb late in the day on day two. Alex, in the past, has given folks the choice of doing a long "middle-chain-ring" climb or have a shuttle take riders to Onion Creek road. Either way you're climbing to camp 2. Train on.

Kokopelli (2008-01-29)

Norm

Columbia, SC

I'm not a big rider as far as time in the saddle goes but last year I did the BTC and really loved the challange of the multi-day ride. I'm training well right now and I should come into this ride in good shape. I'm glad you guys started to talk about the trail. Looking forward to doing the type of riding I've only read and seen pictures of.

(2008-01-28)

Viking

Longmont

Definitely save the legs. The third day is the test. It's easy to go all out on day 2. The first half the day is mostly downhill to sag. It's easy to try and see how fast you can tick those miles off. I'd suggest taking it easy and get to know your neighbor. This year my strategy will be to rest as much as possible on day two. Save up for the big, long, un-ending climbs of day 3 and hopefully (fingers crossed) have enough energy to do the trails Chris mentioned or, atleast, have enough energy to do the practice loop at Slick Rock.

(2008-01-28)

chris

longmont, Co

Day one is fun, day two is hard, day three is the test. Newbies save your legs. Consider some electrolyte supplements like endurolytes $12 investment to keep those legs moving and not cramping especially if it's hot. Day 3 is a twisted kind of fun now that you mentioned it, one of those days that you astonish yourself after those false summit teases. For the demented, after climbing out of castle valley sag on the road, go left where the kokopelli goes right to marked singletrack named Hazard County trail. Do an out and back on this new gem. Through aspen groves and high birthing grounds for elk on tight singletrack in a pristine environment, the downhill coming back is silly fun, fly across the road back on to kokopelli and just keep heading downhill for another two hours via porcupine. To my brother, we're riding all of it so get spinning. he he he

(2008-01-28)

Joe

Arvada, CO

The best part is the first 3 hours of day one and there is something sick and fun about suffering up the day 3 climb. Happy Training.

(2008-01-27)

chris

Longmont, Co

Exactly Ryan, Where are the other 156 people who broke down the internet doors to get on this trip? This will be my 4th trip and I am even more ecstatic about going this year come sun, rain, or snow. I have no preference to any certain stretch of trail as all is good when I'm in the middle of nowhere on a bike.

Favorite part of the kokopelli (2008-01-27)

Viking

Longmont, CO - 1st Ride

OK, so there has to be more than us four Longmont folks checking out the ride chat. So lets do just that, chat about the coming ride. I'll pose this question: What's your favorite section of the Kokopelli? Mine is the Western Rim option on Day 1. The first time I rode that was in 2006. It was truly awesome. I loved the hero drops and banging along on the granite/sandstone faces. Lots of fun.

Sunday, Sunday, Sunday (2008-01-25)

Viking

So, we ride Sunday. How about riding the Blue Sky to Fort Collins down to 34 Road for a burger and beer and back to Loveland?

Riding (2008-01-25)

Scott

Longmont

50's on Sunday!! Yeah I'm in for a MTB'ering ride!! Devils Backbone?

Weekend Ride (2008-01-23)

Viking

I've got the greenlight for a long ride this weekend? Chris, Scott, Rob, Mike, et. anyone else, up for doing the Blue Sky on either Saturday or Sunday? Biking Viking

(2008-01-21)

chris

Scott, It was great when global warming actually made things warm. Spring is just around the corner and the 90 day outlook is warmer and drier. I've got a spanky new light that's dying to burn some retinas. I rode slickrock with it last year, but my helmet was broke and causing it to fall over my eyes so my first experience was tough. But some local fun would be cool although the only trail I think is "legally" allowed to ride on at night is nighthawk at Hall ranch. Just kidding. somewhat. Anyway let's get a group email list or just post here for some future ride's. ok cool hand luke

(2008-01-21)

chris

Rob, Ditto on Ringwood. Just one day on my FS. 14 degrees is pretty rough to start but horsetooth only goes one way to start, right. I've been riding Flagstaff in the snow on my SS and have been dealing with keeping the tire from spinning only to find the real challenge is coming back down. Maybe in the coming weeks we can catch up. My wife's out of town this weekend and I've got my lovely daughter to amuse or be amused by for 4 days so no riding this one. Maybe a hike. I'm at 7th and Bross and some other bikerpellians are close also. I'll keep ya posted.. Chris

Chris (2008-01-21)

Rob

Longmont, CO

Chris, Ive lived in Longmont for 3 years. I live on Collyer in the old part of town. I'm riding it with my riding partner, Mike. I don't know who Ryan is. Mike and I ride together as much as we can on the MTB. I ride any kind of bike you can think of except BMX. I had a Cat. 2 license in the 80's when I rode for Cycle Sport in Park Ridge. I had a Cat. 2 license when Davis Phinney was winning all the time. If he didn't win Steve Bauer did. I'm dating myself. I miss Ringwood all the time. I wish I could blink my eyes and go back for a day, ride and blink again and be home. I used to love the way the trail was so different in the different seasons. Fallen leaves on the trail doesn't happen out here. We rode Horsetooth on Saturday. It was 14 degrees when we got out of the truck. The road up to the tower was covered with ice. We both thought it was fun. You had to concentrate very hard to not spin your back wheel and to not lose the front end. When we got to the trails we wanted to ride the snow was 8 inches deep and couldn't ride them. The ride down was an adventure.

Riding (2008-01-21)

Scott

Longmont

Hey Chris, took the roadbike out yesterday for a quick jaunt down 66 to acclimate to the cold and no so friendly weather just because of your guys' story from last year ;o) Then I stopped by the Viking's and helped him for about 2 seconds (just enough time to get a glove soaked with water) and rode home . . . glove froze at about uuhhhhhh Coffman and fingers went numb at about 9th and Lashley!!!! Ahhhhh cold weather riding gotta luv it!! We gotta get out and do some MTB'ering one of these weekends or weeknights if the Temp's improve!!! Headlamps anyone????????

(2008-01-20)

chris

Longmart

Hey Bill, I glad your psyched. You'll be fine. Don't forget to practice some technical stuff and show those Ringwood trails whose boss. Lets talk this week. Rob, We're actually from Hawthorne. How long have you lived in Longmont? Are you a friend of Ryan's or are you doing the koko with someone else. I live by Roosevelt park if you want to join up with us for some "training rides" ha ha. At the very least, I'll try to organize another pre koko ride and eats the day before at 18 rd in Fruita for some people to get acquainted and warmed up for the big ride. I say try because last year they got their annual rainfall on the way over and then all hell broke loose on the trail.(please no more koko gods 75 and sunny) At least this year I've been riding in the snow and cold so I'll be prepared for anything. Chris

Training Hard (2008-01-20)

Billy G

Mahwah, NJ

Hey Rob, thanks for the advice. I have ridden part of the Kokopelli with my brother already...I am really looking forward to doing the entire thing! My goal is to be in the best shape of my life when I arrive...I will settle for nothing less. My brother lives in Longmont as well...too funny...

Billy g. (2008-01-19)

Rob Nierengarden

Longmont,Co

Billy, I'm from Ridgewood, NJ. I'